Thursday, December 08, 2022

Turn About Is Fair Play!

The Supreme Court just heard a case of web designer who refuses to to do a gay man’s website, well now a business just turned an evangelical Christian group… and guess what they don’t like it.

Faith-based group turned away from Virginia restaurant over anti-LGBTQ stance. ‘Bravo’
Charlotte Observer
By Moira Ritter
December 6, 2022

A restaurant in Virginia canceled a faith-based group’s reservation after learning of its anti-LGBTQ views, according to the restaurant’s owners and the group. Members of The Family Foundation said they were denied service — saying “We’ve been canceled! Again.” — by Metzger Bar and Butchery, a German restaurant in Richmond. The restaurant’s owners confirmed in a Facebook post that they had canceled a reservation made by the group and refused them service. “After the owners of Metzger found out it was a group of donors to a political organization that seeks to deprive women and LGBTQ+ persons of their basic human rights in Virginia,” the owners wrote in a Dec. 1 Facebook post. “We have always refused service to anyone for making our staff uncomfortable or unsafe and this was the driving force behind our decision.” “We respect our staff’s established rights as humans and strive to create a work environment where they can do their jobs with dignity, comfort and safety,” the owners said in the post. “We hope you will understand our decision as we understand it is your choice to dine with us or not.”


After sharing another post about its decision on Facebook, patrons shared their support for the restaurant’s decision.


Some users pushed back against the restaurant’s decision, instead arguing that The Family Foundation had a right to its reservation.

Gee… it seems that it is okay to turn away us but a Christian group no way!

I think that if you open a business to the general public that you have to serve everyone.

Where should we draw the line between gay rights and religious rights?
The Hill – Opinion
By Bernado Goldberg
December 8, 2022

It’s generally not a good idea for an opinion writer to begin a column about a controversial issue with, “I’m not sure how I feel about this one — I think both sides have a good argument.” Opinion writers aren’t supposed to waffle; they’re expected to come down on one side or the other, and with something resembling confidence and certainty. Wishy-washy doesn’t cut it.

Except — and here’s your wishy-washy alert — I’m not sure how I feel about a case that went before the Supreme Court this week, a case involving gay rights and religious rights, because I think both sides have a good argument.


My gut reaction is: too bad. Once you open a business you have to serve the general public. That’s essentially what the Colorado law says.

It’s also what David Cole, the legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union, says in an op-ed for the New York Times. “Can an artist be compelled to create a website for an event she does not condone? … The answer would seem to be obviously ‘no,’” he writes.


At the time, I wrote [About the Supreme Court case of a Colorado bakery],  “If you open a store on Main Street, while you have the right to refuse to bake cakes adorned with Nazi slogans, you don’t have the right to refuse to bake cakes for gay weddings. Nazis aren’t a protected group in the Colorado civil rights law — or any other state civil rights law; discriminating based on sexual orientation, however, is against the law — and not only in Colorado.

However, this isn’t about rights, this is about discrimination.

If it wasn’t about religion and LGBTQ+ community but rather race or religion would everyone feel the same way?

Would it be okay to serve a Black person because of your religion?

Would it be okay not to hire a Muslim because your religion ?

What about refusing to rent a room to an unmarried mother because of your religion?

Where will it end?

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